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« on: September 29, 2009, 10:28:04 AM »

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LTO microchips could be used for spying

By Gil C. Cabacungan Jr.
Philippine Daily Inquirer
First Posted 20:38:00 09/23/2009

Filed Under: Government offices & agencies


MANILA, Philippines - A party-list representative on Wednesday warned that the plan of the Land Transportation Office to tag vehicles with microchips could be used as " spy chips’’ to snoop on private citizens.

In a statement, Gabriela Representative Liza Maza said the LTO should first inform the public on the “ins and outs” of the radio frequency identification (RFID) technology to be used in the microchip sticker, specifically the extent of monitoring the information contained in the microchip.

While she lauded the benefits of the microchip technology specifically in speeding up vehicle registration and providing immediate access to vehicle ownership, Maza was wary of possible abuses by the state in using the technology.

“This technology raises fears that it might be used to violate the right to privacy of individuals. LTO’s microchips might in turn be used as spy chips for government’s surveillance operations to those critical of the current administration,” Maza said.

“Apparently, LTO will act like a Big Brother. It can be used as a spying device since radio waves from a microchip will identify all information of the vehicle on a real-time basis.’’

Aside from the potential for abuse, Maza also took note of the cost of implementing the microchip as it would entail a one-time cost of P350 per vehicle.

"I believe the LTO should explain the cost of this technology as it appears that only big companies would profit and benefit from this,’’ said Maza said.
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« Reply #1 on: October 01, 2009, 03:28:30 PM »

I think a better use of our money would be to buy a fleet of reaper drones (with or without the hellfire missles), hand them to the philippine air force (ang kawawang cowboy, may baril walang bala, may piloto wala naman eroplano) and have them run daily traffic patrols of metro manila for bayani fernando. Kung meron flood, sila ang mag pinpoint ng areas where rescue should be sent. Kung may drive by shooting or cellphone snatching or carnapping, the drones will follow the escaping criminal to their lair and a SWAT team will follow. Or if you want, shoot them with the hellfire missle.
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« Reply #2 on: October 01, 2009, 09:25:21 PM »

LTO should be given the benefit of the doubt. The technology should be demonstrated to the public first before criticism is drawn. Most of the critics aren't really experts on the field, just paranoid citizens.
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« Reply #3 on: October 03, 2009, 09:01:49 PM »

LTO should in detail explain how this would work, di pwede generic lame explanations
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« Reply #4 on: November 28, 2009, 09:44:49 AM »

some of those criticizing this are people na walang ibang ginawa kundi mag criticize. kung baga that is their role. kahit ano na lang, binabatikos nila.

in a paranoid way, yes this can be used for spying. BUT the question is would this spying really be intrusive? as far as the technology is concerned (as used in other places), these chips are only used to track the location of a certain vehicle. so the only spying this can do is to know where exactly your vehicle is at any given time. Siguro yung iba, takot na baka malaman kung saan saan sila nagpupunta.

I believe the good outweigh the bad in this one. the benefits to this would certainly be felt by people. for one, this should reduce the incidents of carnapping (or at the very least lead to faster apprehensions of carnappers)
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« Reply #5 on: November 28, 2009, 11:28:56 AM »

We criticized this technology because we know not all authorities that would be using this are trustworthy. Problema pa rin ang KOTONG hangang ngayon, to state one of the problems in LTO.

The bottom line is we don't trust them. And I don't want them to know who I am every time I get passed to them anywhere here in Philippines. Mostly I don't want them to know how did I get my registration and plate number done here in Mindanao!  Tongue
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« Reply #6 on: November 28, 2009, 01:25:15 PM »

Siguro yung iba, takot na baka malaman kung saan saan sila nagpupunta.

Exactly! If you are not doing something wrong, you won't get paranoid about your whereabouts being monitored.

Come to think of it, several hundred satellites circling the planet (with high resolution cameras to boot) are capable of spying on us anytime. Why get afraid of RFID?

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Nike+, that orange chip being placed inside the shoe to monitor the runner, is an RFID device. How come no one is complaining as loud as those opposing the use of RFID on vehicles? (you can be monitored going to the loo when you wear the shoes with the chip, heheh...) Ordinary cellphones can be located through triangulation of cellsites. Those with Wi-fi can be tracked closer because of the short range signal being used. Those with GPS can be pinpointed even more! So why get paranoid with RFID, when the things that we use everyday can be utilized for the same sinister purpose that we're afraid RFID would be used?
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« Reply #7 on: November 28, 2009, 11:29:51 PM »

the cellphone can be turned off if you want privacy

if ever this gets implemented, i'm making a faraday cage so I always have the option of blocking the signal


BTW, you can also make an RFID roadside bomb trigger. If ID = erap, explode
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« Reply #8 on: November 29, 2009, 06:35:50 PM »

the cellphone can be turned off if you want privacy

Cellphones can be turned off, but with the other technologies present, maybe it isn't enough to avoid getting spied on...
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« Reply #9 on: November 30, 2009, 12:37:47 PM »

with pgma and her allies/cohorts in power?
no way i would get an RFID for our car...

madali lang kasing abusuhin...
si pgma nga, na-wiretap ni sgt doble...
ito pa kayang mga cellphones natin at ang bagong RFID for vehicles?

it is just an income generating project of the government...maganda ang layunin, mahirap patakbuhin...
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« Reply #10 on: November 30, 2009, 03:57:37 PM »

Well the whole point of this is our PRIVACY. Satellites, Internet social networks, etc, are built in a way that the bastards can do datamining techniques and know who and where we are individually. These technologies gave the rich and powerful ones have even more control to the common and gullible. Our vehicles are the only way we can get-away fast from being pried on by these people. Of course they can pry on us in many other ways, but at least not on our vehicles.
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« Reply #11 on: May 02, 2010, 12:15:16 PM »

uhmm.. how they will use this to spy? I don;t get it...
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« Reply #12 on: May 02, 2010, 04:50:17 PM »

Maybe in the simplest form RFID is just like a barcode, cross-reference an ID tag to a corresponding database for info.

In a more complex form it could contain info just like a hotel card.

Maybe for example a kidnapper (with an RFID scanner) can keep tack of his target via RFID, he may learn that the car leaves at this hour, or visits a certain location on specific date and time, etc.

True it is exploitable, but I still agree it should be implemented. Almost everything around us is exploitable yet we use them.  Grin
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« Reply #13 on: May 03, 2010, 10:11:33 AM »

uhmm.. how they will use this to spy? I don;t get it...

well realistically. you could place hidden RFID scanners on major choke points. RFID does have a limited range. Network the scanners and you can now see all the RFID's that pass by a scanner. Since its computerized, its easy to check in the logs from time to time and filter out all the results so you can more or less trace the movement of a particular RFID

you could do it the old fashioned way (longer range pa) with multiple surveillance cameras but it can be more difficult because its less automated.

You do not want to use RFID tracking this way except for really important targets

A more realistic misuse of RFID is the RFID roadside bomb. Pag may dumaan na RFID and it mathches the criteria, then kaboom. You could even set the criteria to a specific nationality if that nation has RFID's in its passports




a huge number of RFID objections and dangers can be negated  by merely using a faraday cage. For example, sa passport. Put the rfid passport in a metallic folder or bag. You can still have the RFID read whenever you pass customs i the airport but once you put it back in the bag, the RFID cannot be read anymore
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