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Title: Is the Death Penalty good for society ? Post by: Justin on August 17, 2008, 04:34:10 PM Is the Death Penalty good for society ?
What do you think? Title: Re: Is the Death Penalty good for society ? Post by: whitehat on August 17, 2008, 05:46:49 PM 1 for agree..
sabihin na lang nating malupit ang mundo para sa mga nagkasala pero maganda itong panakot sa mga kriminal. sa tingin ko wala pinagkaiba ang luma at sinaunang panahon ng pagpapataw ng batas sa tao. kung nagkasala ka ng malaki halimbawa sa maraming tao ay kailangan magbayad din ng karampatang parusa. Ngunit dahil ito'y delikado at brutal kailangan ng gobyerno na magpatupad ng isang batas na para lamang sa mga nararapat nito. At dapat may kredibilidad at me paninindigan ang mga magpapatupad nito. Title: Re: Is the Death Penalty good for society ? Post by: malakaayo on August 17, 2008, 09:10:31 PM no...
i was for death penalty in the past because of the presence of high crimes in our society today... this is because there is no "undo" button when we sentence someone to death... and sooner or later new evidence would uncover the innocence of the "convict"... it is better for someone to be convicted and sentenced for life behind bars... life is not ours to give, nor ours to take... Title: Re: Is the Death Penalty good for society ? Post by: FOXY_CHER on August 18, 2008, 12:57:02 AM it is good ... panakot hehehe
Title: Re: Is the Death Penalty good for society ? Post by: Justin on August 18, 2008, 01:00:11 AM Agree with malakaayo. And besides we have lots of alternative punishments.And wala tayong license para pumatay ng tao. Si God lang ang may karapatan. Some cases na hindi guilty ang suspect pero patay na dahil huli na ang lahat.
Title: Re: Is the Death Penalty good for society ? Post by: FOXY_CHER on August 18, 2008, 01:02:16 AM it was written in the old testament that God has allowed us to make our own laws ... yun lang :)
Title: Re: Is the Death Penalty good for society ? Post by: ysNoi on December 06, 2008, 09:54:34 PM Agree din ako kay bro malakaayo...Hindi naman tayo ang gumawa ng buhay kaya wala tayong karapatan na kunin to...!
At hindi solution ang death penalty dyan...Nasa gobyerno yan...! Title: Re: Is the Death Penalty good for society ? Post by: darkangel on December 06, 2008, 10:52:14 PM I agree!!
however, this should only be done on rare and extreme circumstances where certain individuals are ultra dangerous to themselves, to others, and to the whole human community. Very rare people exhibit themselves as a cancer or virus on our community and these are the ones that needed termination. ;D ;D ;D claiming that its only God that could take it away because he was the only one that gives life, is actually a presumption that God gave life. If we follow such logic, then we could blame God for all the atrocities made by all twisted psycho path criminals. After all he gave them life. thus basing such reasoning alone, and concluding that death penalty is wrong, is absurd and illogical. moreover, if we look down on the old testament we will see that God is the first one through out human history, if we are to believe it to be a historical event, who initiated a death penalty. Genesis 2:17 says: "for in the day that you eat from it you will surely die". By this we could see that God himself agrees on Death penalty but only on those deserving it. Don't take a word from an inclined agnostic. ;D ;D ;D Title: Re: Is the Death Penalty good for society ? Post by: real estate broker philip on January 30, 2009, 03:47:19 PM Yes, but for our society No!
Our justice system sucks big time so when ever there are people who was given a sentence of death, i can't really be sure if that this person deserves this kind of punishment maybe beacause: He was used as a escaped goat Frame-up He's so F_____g POOR (i wish to see a big shot getting killed live or some sort) Etc. ALSO The cost of killing is much cheaper than letting these criminals lived on a cell. Title: Re: Is the Death Penalty good for society ? Post by: draw_paintatoms on January 30, 2009, 10:03:28 PM @bro darkangel I agree!! 8) :D
Good to hear something from an "inclined agnostic"! Never met one before. :P We should have a drink sometime bro and talk more about it. Well, our current judicial system is normally based on the things we classify as "good" or "evil". So accurate with regards to individual human tastes and predispositions. "Tastes and Predispositions" ?? In a nutshell that is for the human species to THRIVE. Well evolutionary ethics says we are redesigning our culture to be more "user friendly" to the human members. Is death penalty becoming "user friendly"? ;D ;D ;D Title: Re: Is the Death Penalty good for society ? Post by: maelstorm on March 02, 2009, 02:25:17 PM No for me. Everybody is entitled for a second chance. Kahit gaano pa kasama ang taong yan. si God ang nagbigay sa atin ng buhay, sya lang me karapatang magbawi nu.
@darkangel God gave us also "free will". So you can't blame Him for all the sadness, cruelty and chaos that is happening around the world. And about the verse in the bible you mentioned. I think you were referring to Adam and Eve, they broke God's rules and ate the forbidden fruit, that is why God gave death to them/people. If you follow the story, they were condemn to work so they could eat. If they don't they will surely die. I don't think it's death penalty. Opinion lang po, for a healthy discussion. Kung gusto nyo matindi parusa, itali na lang at kilitiin ng 2 oras. 8) Title: Re: Is the Death Penalty good for society ? Post by: darkangel on March 02, 2009, 07:26:49 PM Quote Well, our current judicial system is normally based on the things we classify as "good" or "evil". So accurate with regards to individual human tastes and predispositions. "Tastes and Predispositions" ?? In a nutshell that is for the human species to THRIVE. Well evolutionary ethics says we are redesigning our culture to be more "user friendly" to the human members. Is death penalty becoming "user friendly"? Grin Grin Grin @draw_paintatoms, Thanks for sharing the general idea of evolutionary ethics. Hope you could give links to those ideas - i'd love to read them. ;) Love the term "user friendly". However its also good to ask: user friendly to whom? to the general society? or to just a few upper/ruling class? :). Quote God gave us also "free will". So you can't blame Him for all the sadness, cruelty and chaos that is happening around the world. @maelstorm,Its good that you have voiced your opinion. However, following your logic about god giving men freewill, then he has some responsibility of the misuse of freewill he gave. Did he not anticipated that freewill will cause and grant people to be criminals causing much chaos, death and suffering throughout mankind's history? a knife is a useful tool, but will you give it to children who has a potential to use it in a detrimental way? Quote And about the verse in the bible you mentioned. I think you were referring to Adam and Eve, they broke God's rules and ate the forbidden fruit, that is why God gave death to them/people. If you follow the story, they were condemn to work so they could eat. If they don't they will surely die. I don't think it's death penalty. Yes its about (the legend?) of adam and eve eating a forbidden fruit. the sentence god gave about this action was a death penalty according to Genesis 2:17 although its more like a life sentence (in this case a true life sentence, and death as an ultimate outcome). but this could hardly be an action of a god believed to be of love and grace. would you put to death or life sentence a child because he has eaten a forbidden food in the fridge? According to theology we are just like children to god and yet our supposedly ancient ancestor Adam did not met such treatment. Just a little food for thought. :) Title: Re: Is the Death Penalty good for society ? Post by: maelstorm on March 02, 2009, 08:05:49 PM @darkangel
Yep, God knows eveything. Before you even think of doing it. "Freewill" might/will cause such chaos, suffering etc. but it is the responsibility of a human being and not by Him. If your boss gave you your salary, will your boss still be responsible of the things you want to buy with it? Imagine the world would be if God didn't put any rules or I may say commandments for us. Title: Re: Is the Death Penalty good for society ? Post by: comtechoy on March 02, 2009, 09:11:00 PM Hindi lahat nahatulan ng death penalty ay may kasalanan. innocent people executed wrongly. :'(
Title: Re: Is the Death Penalty good for society ? Post by: Discover on March 02, 2009, 10:43:19 PM Sa ngayon suspendedo ang Death Penalty sa Administration Arroyo. Kaya maraming nakapila sa bibitayin at good news naman sa mga bibitayin kasi suspendedo. 8)
Title: Re: Is the Death Penalty good for society ? Post by: real estate broker philip on March 03, 2009, 05:42:00 PM @Discover
It's actually a way of getting/maximizing administration votes on 2010, not from those prisoners but from their relatives :D But wait till someone gets elected ;) |